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October 27th, 2006, 05:02 AM
#21
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You could get some pale paint, dilute it a bit, and paint over the AG's teeth if she's that against it! Their smiles are small enough that if you just redid the lips, it wouldn't look bad at all, I don't think.
And that stinks about the $45 per doll. I figured that if they shipped them in the same box, it would come to less. What if you arranged it with someone in the US to have them shipped to that address, and then forwarded to you, so that you can avoid the extra charge? I know that it'll still be pricey to go across the Pacific, but it may be better in the end - you'd have to calculate it to see.
As for wanting a more serious look and no teeth, there's definitely Kaya in the AG collection. She has darker skin, so she might not be suitable as a Lisbeth or Laura, even if you changed her hair.
In the end, I don't think you should force an AG doll on your daughter if she really doesn't like it, but I do believe that the AG is better quality and will last better than the Vision Forum doll.
Also, regarding the JLY #3 - if you get that one, so that the hair does better, you can also order Kirsten's clothes as a replacement, so that she can be an actual Kirsten, so it shouldn't be a problem. (Or there might be someone with a set who wouldn't mind selling it to you.)
[img]graemlins/star.gif[/img] --- KERI --- [img]graemlins/star.gif[/img]
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October 27th, 2006, 08:32 AM
#22
Inactive Member
I forgot to add...I did look at our version of ebay and had a search in .American girl dolls never came up.So we "broke down" and decided to invest( or go crazy) this Christmas.It will be a surprise to the girls...they know we asked what they like but they do not really think they will get the dolls.I will have to post here afterwards and tell you their reaction....
I now want a bitty baby or boy/ girl twins for our two year old!!My husband wants to ban me from the computer!
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October 27th, 2006, 10:59 AM
#23
Inactive Member
Would it be cheaper in shipping to buy the dolls from US eBay? There are often dolls new in the box available. Sometimes they are a few dollars higher than ordering through AG. I often wondered who would buy those when they could order cheaper from AG. I've assumed it's people in other countries who get a better shipping deal from eBay sellers. You should check it out.
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October 27th, 2006, 11:39 AM
#24
Inactive Member
I am picking up a doll today that might be Kirsten I can let you know her condition and show pictures if she is
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October 27th, 2006, 01:11 PM
#25
Inactive Member
I'm from NZ too! I've never lived there though, but we go there every few summers and I have an album of my Kirst in NZ in my siggy.
I've had my Kirsten since I was 12 (she's 3 years old). Her hair's very long and extremely wavy once you remove the braids. I used to style her hair everyday, and it seems to have held up quite well. She is a beautiful doll though; very good quality, and I would definately recomend her! The clothes are very good quality too.
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October 27th, 2006, 04:12 PM
#26
HB Forum Owner
I say get your daughter which ever doll she wants more. To a child a doll is just a doll, unless its the doll you REALLY want.
<font color="#33CCCC" size="1">[ October 27, 2006 04:27 PM: Message edited by: judiaci ]</font>
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October 28th, 2006, 12:48 AM
#27
Inactive Member
Hi fellow 'newbie' and close (ish) neighbour [img]smile.gif[/img] I think it was seeing your post yesterday that pushed me over the edge from, 'must register one day so I can post' to 'must register NOW to tell Ann that, yes these dolls are glorious, beautifully made and absolutely worth the horrendous shipping and lousy $ exchange rate to get them all the way down here!'
The dolls have a lovely 'feel' to them, beautiful hair and AG's pictures on site and in catalogues don't do their faces justice at all. I particularly like that these dolls sit 'properly' ie legs out in front instead of almost doing the 'splits' as some other dolls do.
It sounds as though shipping costs are similar for NZ and Australia - $45 is what I pay to ship a doll from AG too. I asked CS a little while ago about the cost of two dolls shipped together and was told about $55 so it might be worth asking again to be sure. Even if it's gone up, I'd be really surprised if it cost the same as two dolls shipped separately, to send them together.
Cheers,
Val
(edited to eliminate 'rabbiting on')
<font color="#33CCCC" size="1">[ October 27, 2006 10:14 PM: Message edited by: AGfanDownUnder ]</font>
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October 28th, 2006, 03:33 AM
#28
Inactive Member
Vision Forum Dolls are made by Engel Puppen in Germany. I do not own one, but I have seen several and they are superior in quality to American Girl (made in China).
The VF have rooted hair, but Engel recommends rooted hair for frequent play by a child. The hair fiber is the same even though it is not a wig. The VF dolls are the same size as American Girl and can wear all of the same clothes accessories.
Either way your daughters will be thrilled! I would say, get them both exactly what they want: Kirsten and Liberty. You will have an exciting Christmas!!
AGPlaythings.com message board has TONS of reviews of AG dolls and items. There is also a board there for non-AG dolls and a board about doll care. You might visit.
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October 28th, 2006, 06:15 PM
#29
Inactive Member
Just got the doll I was picking up and she is lovely, but not Kirsten.
I say get the girls the dolls they want - It is true almost the one she wants is never quite the same as - I can't believe I got the doll I really Wanted - I know money can be tight, but the looks on their faces will be priceless.
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October 28th, 2006, 09:07 PM
#30
Inactive Member
I do agree that you should get your girl the doll she wants; if you can't make her seriously want an AG more than the Vision Forum doll, then she should have the doll she wants, if you can afford the shipping. (I just like AGs much better.)
(But at least if the rooted hair is bad, you can always trim it off and rewig with a wig bought online or on eBay!)
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